rip rounds review

Bullet weight for RIP Rounds 9mm load is 92 grains, which gives them some zip (1250 fps for their 9mm ammo) due to the light weight. Now THAT was a RIP(ping) round! So what kind of devastating, ultra-powerful ammo did it take to make this comparable damage? As soon as you design some sort of ‘exploding’ projectile, those things go right out the window. Oliver has been a shooter for as long as he can remember. The RIP round is newer technology. The resulting shock wave and … I guess about as we expected… It seems the current understanding in terminal ballistics is that optimal performance is achieved by the most mass possible penetrating the deepest (within the 12-18″ range) – with the most possible expansion. This effect is capable of stopping even the gravest of threats, and takes .380 lethality to level previous unheard of for small caliber rounds. Further, I’d be very worried about a self-defense claim in court if I managed to get it to feed to start with. Do I want a box or two? It needs to be prepared properly, mixed properly at proper temperatures and stored at four degrees celsius for the right amount of time to cure. 12ga 2 3/4" The last round you'll ever need. skin,bones,muscle,and fat is not the same as gel. I’ve already talked to several lawyers about it, I will go free and they can never illegally enter another’s home. San Francisco has tried to ban all HPs–but the Chief of Police, recognizing the invalidity of the statute, has said that it is enforceable only against he original Black Talon. Does that mean that the trocars are doing about the same amount of damage as a BB does? Shoot something with ribs and bone and super muscle, then tell me what the round does or doesn’t do. Imo it looks better. Great review looking forward to more snd bookmarked ” save for reference”. Report Save. It’s sophomoric and amateurish…sounds like something that emanated from between the ears of a certain narcissistic, Napoleonic, non-legally-trained gunrag-writer/seminar giver. What concerns me is how likely it is to have a catastrophic failure. If it *doesn’t* fragment, it’s not going to be the RIP-concept anymore and be just another low-mass 9mm. If I feel threatened enough to pull the trigger, I want the threat to be eliminated. Especially if it was determined that the first bullet would have stopped them. Of course, my “fake” R.I.P. If it penetrates too deeply it will carry some of that energy on to damage other non-targets. Otherwise, you could be charged with manslaughter, murder, etc. Got a larger pig tonight, nit in shoulder while moving, dropped dead in it’s tracks. The FBI uses organic professional ballistic gel which is made from powdered pork skin. However, the ones that tout the effectiveness of the ammo are convincing and passionate. Bullets kill, period. The CCI segmented hollow point splits into three pieces. Stopped dead after less than 2mm penetration. It’s close to what I expected as well. (This concept also applies to a bullet/jacket separation, hence bonding). Balance these effectively and you have a fight stopping combination. The test pistol was a Glock 19 with 4.02" barrel. No matter how they “tweak” the design, it’s still going to be a 45 grain, fmj projectile along with some very-low-mass fragments. It will run you $50 for 20 rounds — that’s $2.50 per bullet. Provides a much more impactful shockwave which is what will do the damage.Those sort of rounds have been around for decades. I’ve got a bersa 380 that I’ve shot over 1k rounds through and no ftf, or misfires, does that mean it magically turned into a glock? I’ve never seen a company do that before, but G2 has printed a picture of a gelatin block right on the back of their box. You’ve saved me some money. For the pistol, I chose a GLOCK 19. Required fields are marked *. Share. HSTs manage it by complicated pre-incision, jacket bonding, and formation of the core. I quit reading at the part where it jammed in a Glock 19. Birdshot that has been encapsulated in epoxy basically creates a massive frangible round that is absolutely devastating in terms of tissue disruption and wounding potential, still penetrates unreliably beyond very close range. At bad breath distances accuracy is a moot point. Gotcha! i think it is the ammo, because reloads from the same place had a ftf in the 38. it did have a solid hit on the primer. Yep. Denim and other barriers will come later. Now someone smack you and continues and attack with punches, garbage cans and whatever they can find to inflict great bodily harm and even death seems imminent then using deadly force is justifiable. Chances are that the only part of the round that would hit vital organs would be the core. Definitely not after this test. Would want to send some his way. There were tungsten-cored Dangerous Game loads a while back but got taken off the market in part because of that. Unintended consequence is that his type of gimmick just gives the antis another data point to confirm their view that we people of the gun are only out for a kill. Need some other sites to check this stuff out. For the price you can buy 2.5 boxes of Zombie Max, that you can show off at the range, and still zap a zombie meth head carjacker without choking your Glock. That means the actual projectile is pretty much match grade every one will be the same. If it chokes a semi-auto, what’s wrong with using a nice reliable revolver to begin with? Don’t worry. In Part I of the process, I did bare gel testing. It’s not new, it’s just a mistake that nobody has made in a long time. Wow! The number one rule of self defense, if you attack me or my family, I WILL kill you. G2R went to a lot of trouble to engineer produce these rounds. CA and NY are probably already working on it. I am not defending the G2 ammo but I don’t believe it had anything to do with the mag failure. The ones that claim to be the best usually can’t hang with the rest. level 2. At first glance you feel like it would be more effective than a standard hollow point round. Thanks for the test. I knew TTAG would give an honest review. Some bullet shapes will push up on the slide lock when they should not, as it is often the front, left corner of the follower that activates the slide lock and a fat bullet can occupy that same real estate. Published. First, any attorney will tell you self defense is just that self defense. The argument was that this type of ammunition would turn flesh wounds into lethal blows. S.Crock, If that one in six hundred failed round was the one that would have saved your life! I think it’s something we might see in the future, but who knows? Keep it simple stupid. ammo fired without a single failure. i loaded it back up and it worked. They probably didn’t properly fund the marketing and they got something g they shouldn’t have let get out there. only one person testing it so far. 82 % Joel Freeman returns in 10 Rounds, a boxing themed workout series. Zombie Max is functionally Critical Defense with a different, cheaper propellant. It’s like describing a truck’s towing capacity in Priuses. Sure enough, the author had one fail to feed in his Glock. Your email address will not be published. Rifle Ammunition. The shallow penetration of those “trocars” can be put into perspective if you note the analysis of real world shooting victims. box is decorated with the letters “R.I.P.” in a design and color scheme that looks like something you might find on a tombstone, or on an album cover from an ’80’s metal band. And they all cost roughly 1/5 the price of this garbage. as far as it being revolutionary it is. 12 GA G2 Research RIP Ammo - 5rds $54.99 $49.99 Add to Cart Order# RIP12. I’m much more inclined to clean my other magazines that don’t suck to take apart. I’ve personally had firearms have a failure to feed in the first box I fire, then never see issues again for 100’s of rounds…. How do you go about quantifying performance in terms that we can understand, when we’re talking about a bullet that the company trumpets as being such a revolutionary, game-changing projectile? It would be best for writers to just stay away from legal matters and stick to the topic that they are in fact knowledgeable in. Willful ignorance. The Zombie Max ammo (I got a couple boxes when it was the ONLY 9mm hollow point at cabelas during gunpocalypse and only shot about 5 rounds) has almost the exact same polymer insert inside the JHP that the Hornady Critical Defense ammo does. And with a 9mm (or .40S&W or .45acp) you need all the energy you can get to the vital organs. This is not the issue. Thanks STB420. So what this tells me is that their bullet should have no more than three trocars, and that they should not necessarily separate from the base. Ever see a video of a big game hunter taking out a charging lion with a bolt rifle? The only time it isn’t a failure is in frangible ammo made to reduce ricochet (primarily for shooting steel targets) or in “exotic” ammo where the boutique manufacturer makes exaggerated marketing claims of various sorts. Within just a few days after release of the round, the Youtube video advertisement had over 1.5 million hits. Not only did you set out to find specific results, nullifying your scientific credibility, your bias against the RIP ammo is clear not only in your writing but in your sarcastic tone. will do that for real and so on. Some reviews also mention that this guide rail doesn’t feel very ‘smooth’ to use, which may make it difficult to make very straight cuts. Instead, I chose to use industry-standard VYSE professional ballistic gelatin from Gelatin Innovations. More STB410”. Not feeding 100% in a Glock is a major deal breaker. It also seems that the depth actually is better for hitting organs. Next years model The RIP round looks scary and does scary things! 2 years ago. You need to be more concern about your life and your family’s lives than some thug’s life. Third, it’s expen$ive. I keep 4 mags loaded with defense ammo and train with 5 other mags. More seriously, good lord it actually sheds *half* its mass with the trocars? Olie hunts regularly and some of you may have met him at Red Rock or Shimek in the Hawkeye State. But I probably wouldn’t freak out of a single fail to feed out of a large box of ammo (now, the OTHER problems with this ammo…). These people did not exactly have their facts correct. Like I said, talk to your lawyer or find a better one. I’ll stick to lawyers; you guys take your legal advice from anyone you please. Now if someone forces their way into your home, thats entirely different. You analysis using the total surface area is not accurate. I am going to say that the vast majority of the comments I have heard or read about the 9mm RIP ammo is negative. The law that permits the use of deadly force permits just that…deadly force. Pinguns will often stop an attacker – as long as you fire in direct contact with an eyeball or an eardrum. What the hell is that??? True, true. But the decision’s yours – decide and use whatever you’re comfortable with. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It does occur to me that since the first part of the testing proves the round a joke, unsatisfactory for self-defense, there is no reason to read further parts of the test. property) is threatened. You can buy four or five quality 9mm defensive rounds for the cost of each G2 R.I.P. So, I can use one of these rounds and inflict the same blood letting damage and pain as several 22lr rounds? . Someone comes in my home and deadly force will be used to protect my family! If put in a situation where you have to shoot someone to defend your life or your family’s life you are not going g to be asked did you mean to kill the person. That’s really not something you want to have happen with your self defense ammo. So if you fear eminent bodily harm you shot to kill, your not a trained professional that knows how to react under fire. If anyone on here has taken a hand gun carry course, they would know that intentional wounding during self defense (though a seemingly moralistic response) is actually illegal. Like that nasty piece of business for the Judge that was tested recently. G2 Research lawyers will be meeting on monday to talk about this. The failure to feed was a little disheartening, but how many times did this happen, and in how many rounds total? The effects of pistol bullets on airplanes are drastically exaggerated by Hollywood. If the situation is evaluated and proves our claim that the aggressor had intent to kill or inflict mortal harm upon us, we are of course justified in killing them. Tomy Ironmane, I have around 6K rds thru a 2nd gen G23 with the original unsupported barrel with no problems and no appreciable wear.

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